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Old 07-26-2010, 05:27 PM   #1
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Post Who Created the Master Sword?

You all know Farore, Din, and Nayru, sorry if the names are kinda wrong, but the three had created Land, Water, and Whatever i didn't say. But there is no real story to who created the Master Sword! In Wind Waker, it Says "I Boy out of nowhere with a sword...." and tells a story about Gannondorf, but no evidence about the origin of the sword! In the first Zelda Game, the Master Sword is i think by a river or waterfall, and just has the master Sword, but nothing to back it up!! Maybe the King Of the Red Lions made the sword, but the facts are faint. And when you see trailers of "Skyward Sword" they say i think that this is the first Zelda Before OoT! could that be where the maker is from, and the origin of the Sword? This is crazy, but what if, just what if, GannonDorf made the Master Sword???? i have no idea, tell me what you think.
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Old 07-26-2010, 05:46 PM   #2
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SS is about the forging of the Master Sword, I believe. So I'd have to say Link forged it.
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Old 07-26-2010, 06:07 PM   #3
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SS is about the forging of the Master Sword, I believe. So I'd have to say Link forged it.
Hmmmmm.....that..is..pretty awesome! i actualy never heard about that. cool, though.
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From the ALTTP manual:

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The Imprisoning War


I do not know what Ganon wished for from the Triforce. However, in time evil power began to flow from the Golden Land and greedy men were drawn there to become members of Ganon’s army. Black clouds permanently darkened the sky, and many disasters beset Hyrule. The lord of Hyrule sent for the Seven Wise Men and the Knights of Hyrule, and ordered them to seal the entrance to the Golden Land. The Triforce, being an inanimate object, cannot judge between good and evil. Therefore, it could not know that Ganon’s wishes were evil; it merely granted them. Suspecting that Ganon’s power was based on the Triforce’s magic, the people of Hyrule forged a sword resistant to magic which could repulse even powers granted by the Triforce. This mighty weapon became known as the Blade of Evil’s Bane, or the Master Sword. It was so powerful that only one who was pure of heart and strong of body could wield it.
As the Seven Wise Men searched for a valiant person to take up the Master Sword, Ganon’s evil army swarmed from the tainted Golden Land into Hyrule and attacked the castle. The Wise Men and the Knights of Hyrule combined forces to wage war on this evil horde.
The Knights took the full brunt of the fierce attack, and although they thought courageously, many a brave soul was lost that they. However, their lives were not lost in vain, for they bought precious time for the Seven Wise Men to magically seal Ganon in the Golden Land. All of Hyrule rejoiced at the victory that upheld peace and order over Ganon’s evil and chaos. This war, which had claimed many lives, became known as the Imprisoning War in stories told in later centuries.
The people of Hyrule forged the Master Sword.

BTW, there is no Master Sword in the first or second Zelda game.
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Old 07-26-2010, 11:56 PM   #5
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SS is about the forging of the Master Sword, I believe. So I'd have to say Link forged it.
Does this mean SS is set in the Imprisoning war?
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Old 07-27-2010, 01:33 AM   #6
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Yeah, SS is supposed to go into depth on the origins of the Master Sword. But if I were to guess, I'd say the Goddesses, or possibly the Sages forged it.
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Old 07-27-2010, 02:16 PM   #7
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Yeah, SS is supposed to go into depth on the origins of the Master Sword. But if I were to guess, I'd say the Goddesses, or possibly the Sages forged it.
Direct translations of the A Link to the Past manual (more accurate than the NoA translation, in a lot of ways) confirm that the Master Sword was forged by "the people of Hyrule" (possibly Hylians). The translations also confirm that these people did NOT include the Sages, as they had to "search" for the Master Sword.

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The Triforce cannot itself judge good and evil. That is because only gods judge good and evil.

However, users of the Triforce are not limited to only good persons.

Accordingly, to repel an evil "kidnapping" of the Triforce, Hyrule's people were informed by a divine oracle to make an "expel-evil" sword.

That sword was called the Master Sword, and it was said that it could be used by (a person) with the faithful hero's values.

Initially, the Sages searched for the Master Sword and an existant hero/brave man that could handle the sword.
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The Triforce itself cannot judge between good and evil. That is because only the gods can do that.

The Triforce itself cannot judge between good and evil. That is because only the gods can do that.

However, it could not be assumed that only a good person would get their hands on the Triforce.

For that reason, the people of Hyrule were told by the gods to make something that would repulse any evil that may kidnap the Triforce: the blade of evil's bane.

It was called the Master Sword, and it is said that only a true hero could use it.

The Sages first had to search for the existence of the Master Sword and a hero to use it.
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The Triforce, being an inanimate object, cannot judge between good and evil. Therefore, it could not know that Ganon's wishes were evil; it merely granted them.

Suspecting that Ganon's power was based on the Triforce's magic, the people of Hyrule forged a sword resistant to magic which could repulse even powers granted by the Triforce. This mighty weapon became known as the blade of evil's bane, or the Master Sword. It was so powerful that only one who was pure of heart and strong of body could wield it.

As the Seven Wise Men searched for a valiant person to take up the Master Sword...
A direct link to the translations can be found here.
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Old 07-27-2010, 06:47 PM   #8
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Something tells me that when they make SS, they won't give a damn about making sure they follow along with the game manual for a 20 year old Zelda game. But I suppose it's the only explanation we have for now.
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:32 PM   #9
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huh, the people of Hyrule forged this sword. never knew that they can actually make a sword. i guess so, so, case closed i think,.
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Old 07-28-2010, 02:49 PM   #10
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huh, the people of Hyrule forged this sword. never knew that they can actually make a sword. i guess so, so, case closed i think,.
well not entirely. i gotta say i'm actually kind of surprised about the lack of information here. what we already know from SS is that you start with the skyward sword and later this becomes the master sword

the new link in SS comes from sklyloft and in the trailer he jumps, together with the sword, down to hyrule (skyloft lies above the clouds). the developers already confirmed that this is true. this shows that the skyward sword comes from skyloft

in other word the skyloftians made the skyward sword and link made it the Master sword.
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I think the key word here is "Created". First of all, to your question of Ganondorf, do you really think Ganondorf would make the Sword of Evil's Bane? C'mon. Use your head. The Master Sword was originally created by the Skyloftians. Case closed.
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No, both answers being made from the people of Hyrule and made by the Skylofters are correct as each possibility was given in an official story released by Nintendo.

There are two correct answers if the info you gave is correct Navi.
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Old 07-28-2010, 04:13 PM   #13
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well not entirely. i gotta say i'm actually kind of surprised about the lack of information here. what we already know from SS is that you start with the skyward sword and later this becomes the master sword

the new link in SS comes from sklyloft and in the trailer he jumps, together with the sword, down to hyrule (skyloft lies above the clouds). the developers already confirmed that this is true. this shows that the skyward sword comes from skyloft

in other word the skyloftians made the skyward sword and link made it the Master sword.
Err, Aonuma has actually said that the Skyward Sword is found in the land below.

Link jumping off that cliff wasn't very relevant lore-wise.
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Old 07-28-2010, 04:13 PM   #14
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It could be possible that the Skyloftians made the Blade and the Hyrulians made the hilt.
Or something like that
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Old 07-28-2010, 04:25 PM   #15
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I would assume it was built by the first round of sages, or maybe commissioned by Din Nayru and Farore for the time it would be needed. We can assume that it was used before Ganon came on the scene, proven by the fact that it's in Skyward Sword, assuming of course Ganondorf won't be in it. If he is, then the timeline is irreversably broken beyond repair... not like it isn't already, I guess.
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Segan does have a point. His theory does sorta check out well.

Now, the people of Hyrule? Am I the only one who thinks that is a little....I don't know....vague? I mean, surely, with that much power, surely not just anyone could have forged it. It had to be someone with importance or some sort of powers.

Before you say it, I know that in Phantom Hourglass that a sword was forged by a regular person. But he used the PURE METALS, and he obviously was of some importance because he knew about the three Spirits and everything.

So, I think that I will have to agree with Segan's theory. Unless proven otherwise, of course.
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I think that the two sages the infuse it with power also forged the blade and im talking about the former sage Laruto and Fado..... Not Medli and Makar (obiusly)
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Wait, I thought Aonuma said the Skyward Sword is found in Skyloft exactly? Which way does it go now?
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I heard, I think, that the sages built the temple of time and so I assumed that the same people that built the temple also forged the sword.

Then I learned that the Oocca helped build the temple of time so I also guessed that they had a hand in it's forging.

My guess is that both the Oocca and the sages had a large part in the forging of the master sword. Here is my theory:

Since the master sword was originally the skyward sword and was held in the sky, I'm guessing that the Oocca forged actual blade. This is likely, given that the Oocca are the ones with the most advanced technology and thus are more capable of making a truly legendary blade.

Then, once link gets it, the sages bless it with their power. Also likely, being that the sages, as the perpetuates of balance in Hyrule, have the most motive; and they are the only ones with right sort of
power Knowledge and Connection to the Goddesses to bestow such power.

Even ignoring that, they clearly have some sort of connection with the blade. as expressed in wind waker when Link is required to awaken two sages to restore it's power. Also, in Ocarina of Time, the blade was kept in the closest earthly place to the temple of light and the chamber of sages.

As for other candidates:

Yes, Link was involved somehow. Though I doubt he actually sat down over the furnace and made the blade himself. My guess is that you have to rescue the sages again and they slowly bless it to make it stronger.
Zelda, as the leader of the sages is also likely to be involved.

Gannondorf, as the #1 abuser of the Triforce is hardly likely to make a weapon designed specifically to defeat his own favorite source of power.


Oh well, that's my theory.
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I think that you guys have it pinnwd down with the ALTTP explenation, but how do you know about all of this SS stuff? Since WindWakerPro was asking a question about the master sword from TWW, and WW is suppose to be a sequal to OoT, I beleive the Master Sword was forged by the people of Hyrule and left in the castle when the Great Flood happened. End of Story.
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