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**redlinkrulz** · 07-21-2010, 01:13 AM

Here is my question to you all:

Can music corrupt?

To elaborate on that, can listening to "Bad" music change a person for the worse? Can "Good" music cause a person to have good behavior?

And I am not talking about immediate change, I am talking about gradual change to an individual if they listened to "bad" or "good" music very often.

Furthermore, I am not in anyway talking about subliminal messages or anything like that. This isn't a conspiracy thread, it is more of a psychological thread.

So, can music change someone? Or is it just a tool for entertainment only?

**Angelus** · 07-21-2010, 04:56 AM

hmmm, im not really sure.
I've a friend who's a fanatic about metal music and he's a little ............ off (for lack of better word)
perhaps it does, or maybe the people that are... off, gravitate to bad music?

**Gilgameš** · 07-21-2010, 07:22 AM

Of course it can, is my view,

But, I'd say it is more common that music changes with personality. I think it is to some extent almost subconscious how people tend to reflect their own lives through songs. So when they are upset they listen to certain types of music, or the random song they happen to hear matches with their life surprisingly well.

That is why I despise some kinds of music. Song lyrics can easily become a rolemodel, that encourages certain behavior, even though the song's creators didn't live like that, or even think their songs could have such influence.

On the other hand, it depends on how one interpretes the content. Even though I listen to metal, in which's lyrics battle and killing is ever present, I only pick up themes of honor, duty and endurance through harsh times, not the themes of killing and violence.

That way I say music alone can do little to one's person, but all it needs is a starting point, a crack in the mind, which it can open up into a passage, in time.

**Link_OoT** · 07-21-2010, 07:50 AM

Well i think its more vice versa, like to say a person becomes bad after bad music isn't entirelly true, but that as a person changes, there taste in music, amounge other things, can change

**Diablo** · 07-21-2010, 09:14 AM

I think a person listens to music based on their overall mood.

**The Muffin Girl** · 07-21-2010, 06:05 PM

Music definatley effects my mood.
Like if i am sad i'll go listen to a sad song. and be even more sad.
Or if i am listening to an empowering song. i'll wanna go change the world.

Just depends.

**Gilgameš** · 07-22-2010, 04:30 AM

By the way I have to mention this could be expanded on other types of entertainment as well: games and films at the least. I've noted many times that after watching a movie with a strong plot and strong characters (not physically, but with powerful personaölities) I tend to go in this mood where I expect everything to be as epic as possible, timings and everything. I forge elaborate plans from world domination to love interests or creating a secret society. But that hardly affects my personality, though I quess that enough exposure could do something.

But I quess it's better to stick to the music for now.

**Lane The Slain** · 07-22-2010, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelus

hmmm, im not really sure.
I've a friend who's a fanatic about metal music and he's a little ............ off (for lack of better word)
perhaps it does, or maybe the people that are... off, gravitate to bad music?

I listen to Metal. Sure its energizing and sometimes violent, the gore songs are just make believe. Like a horror movie.

I think this debate is a bit flawed. For "good" and "bad" music is purley opiniative. You cannot really say that this is good and this is bad. I think thatit depends purley on the person. If the person thinks the music is good, then it will most likley affect them positivley. If they think their music may be bad then it could affect them in a negative way.

**Diablo** · 07-23-2010, 10:25 PM

I also listen to metal, but also country. Wow my attitude must really be messed up.

**Inflexus** · 07-25-2010, 02:10 AM

Music effects people and can change moods and inspire, but it doesn't force people to change.

**redlinkrulz** · 07-25-2010, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inflexus

Music effects people and can change moods and inspire, but it doesn't force people to change.

But that isn't the qwustion. The question is if music can CAUSE change, not FORCE change

**Kristoffer** · 07-25-2010, 10:28 PM

A theme or idea present within a song can inspire someone's own, original idea, but it is still up to the individual to dissect and rationalize that idea. It is all up to someone to change. Could a song be in part, or in whole the cause of "change" within someone's psychology? It's entirely possible. I wouldn't fully blame music for anything, however, because in the end, every person can decide whether or not they wish to adhere to any idea.

**redpoemage** · 07-26-2010, 10:19 AM

This is kind of the same thing as saying Zelda games make people break pots in complete strangers houses

**Kristoffer** · 07-26-2010, 03:54 PM

All I have to say to people who think songs influence evil is. Lol.

Pokemon is Evil amirite?

**Lane The Slain** · 07-29-2010, 06:06 AM

"You know your old when you start calling peoples music Devil Music."

xD

I agree with Kristoffer. How a music affects somone is entirley up to that person. Thus cant be blamed on the on the artist or genre the person is interested in.

**King of Evil** · 08-05-2010, 08:55 PM

I don't think it can CHANGE. It can play with your feelings but I never saw the effects stay.

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07-21-2010, 04:56 AM	#2
Angelus Rei Ayanami's Lover Member: #2492 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: GA Age: 19 Gender: Posts: 633 : 2,492 TT: [Match] [Cards] [Stats] IM: Rep Power: 0	hmmm, im not really sure. I've a friend who's a fanatic about metal music and he's a little ............ off (for lack of better word) perhaps it does, or maybe the people that are... off, gravitate to bad music? __________________ Mankind can never completely erase the sadness, because they are all fundamentally alone. but if you interact with others , you can forget the sadness for a while. and that moment is what makes life worth living. Alexander wept when he heard from Anaxarchus that there was an infinite number of worlds, and his friends asking him if any accident had befallen him, he returns this answer: Do not you think it a matter worthy of lamentation, that, when there is such a vast multitude of them, we have not yet conquered one?

07-21-2010, 07:22 AM	#3
Gilgameš Ruto Child Member: #20528 Join Date: Dec 2009 Age: 18 Gender: Posts: 361 : 3,927 TT: [Match] [Cards] [Stats] IM: Rep Power: 0	Of course it can, is my view, But, I'd say it is more common that music changes with personality. I think it is to some extent almost subconscious how people tend to reflect their own lives through songs. So when they are upset they listen to certain types of music, or the random song they happen to hear matches with their life surprisingly well. That is why I despise some kinds of music. Song lyrics can easily become a rolemodel, that encourages certain behavior, even though the song's creators didn't live like that, or even think their songs could have such influence. On the other hand, it depends on how one interpretes the content. Even though I listen to metal, in which's lyrics battle and killing is ever present, I only pick up themes of honor, duty and endurance through harsh times, not the themes of killing and violence. That way I say music alone can do little to one's person, but all it needs is a starting point, a crack in the mind, which it can open up into a passage, in time. __________________ No matter where you go, there you are

07-21-2010, 07:50 AM	#4
Link_OoT Ruto Child Member: #19455 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: A Place With An Amp Age: 15 Gender: Posts: 624 : 8,529 TT: [Match] [Cards] [Stats] IM: Rep Power: 0	Well i think its more vice versa, like to say a person becomes bad after bad music isn't entirelly true, but that as a person changes, there taste in music, amounge other things, can change __________________

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Diablo Ruto Child Member: #20853 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida Age: 17 Gender: Posts: 367 : 7,913 TT: [Match] [Cards] [Stats] IM: Rep Power: 0	I think a person listens to music based on their overall mood. __________________

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The Muffin Girl Ruto Child Member: #20562 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Your Street Corner(; Gender: Posts: 806 : 9,132 TT: [Match] [Cards] [Stats] IM: Rep Power: 0	Music definatley effects my mood. Like if i am sad i'll go listen to a sad song. and be even more sad. Or if i am listening to an empowering song. i'll wanna go change the world. Just depends. __________________ Maybe Ignorance IS Bliss.

07-22-2010, 04:30 AM	#7
Gilgameš Ruto Child Member: #20528 Join Date: Dec 2009 Age: 18 Gender: Posts: 361 : 3,927 TT: [Match] [Cards] [Stats] IM: Rep Power: 0	By the way I have to mention this could be expanded on other types of entertainment as well: games and films at the least. I've noted many times that after watching a movie with a strong plot and strong characters (not physically, but with powerful personaölities) I tend to go in this mood where I expect everything to be as epic as possible, timings and everything. I forge elaborate plans from world domination to love interests or creating a secret society. But that hardly affects my personality, though I quess that enough exposure could do something. But I quess it's better to stick to the music for now. __________________ No matter where you go, there you are

07-23-2010, 10:25 PM	#9
Diablo Ruto Child Member: #20853 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida Age: 17 Gender: Posts: 367 : 7,913 TT: [Match] [Cards] [Stats] IM: Rep Power: 0	I also listen to metal, but also country. Wow my attitude must really be messed up. __________________

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Inflexus Sage Member: #17302 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: California Age: 19 Gender: Posts: 217 : 1,624 TT: [Match] [Cards] [Stats] IM: Rep Power: 0	Music effects people and can change moods and inspire, but it doesn't force people to change. __________________

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redpoemage Ruto Child Member: #20871 Join Date: May 2010 Location: In the darkest depths of your insanity Gender: Posts: 389 : 8,315 TT: [Match] [Cards] [Stats] IM: Rep Power: 0	This is kind of the same thing as saying Zelda games make people break pots in complete strangers houses __________________ We are all insane in out own special way

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Lane The Slain Ruto Child Member: #20744 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Strapped in a straightjacket and locked in a dark room. Age: 14 Gender: Posts: 221 : 4,685 TT: [Match] [Cards] [Stats] IM: Rep Power: 0	"You know your old when you start calling peoples music Devil Music." xD I agree with Kristoffer. How a music affects somone is entirley up to that person. Thus cant be blamed on the on the artist or genre the person is interested in. __________________

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King of Evil Ruto Child Member: #21029 Join Date: Jul 2010 Gender: Posts: 54 : 473 TT: [Match] [Cards] [Stats] IM: Rep Power: 0	I don't think it can CHANGE. It can play with your feelings but I never saw the effects stay. __________________

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